Why have we constructed this website?

We have launched Land Rover Hell www.LandRoverHell.com as a result of the consistent problems that we have experienced with our Land Rover Discovery since its purchase, almost 3 years ago. Besides all the problems with the car, what has compounded matters is the bad service and general uninterested and unhelpful attitude of Land Rover Spain, and Land Rover head office in the U.K.

The car has been unbelievably unreliable, and on 2 occasions whilst travelling abroad we experienced major problems, resulting on both occasions having to leave the car behind and return in a small hire car, thus leaving the trailer we had taken with us, stranded there too. Consequently this has involved another round-trip of having to collect the trailer, all at our own cost, which on both occasions the mileage has been 975km for each trip, so it wasn’t cheap! We also feel that it should be bought to everybody’s attention that Land Rover do not want to honour their warranty obligations, and fabricate lies to avoid paying out for genuine repairs, (please read the article "Battery & Transmission" for further details).

We just feel that potential customers of Land Rover should be aware of the fact that the Land Rover Discovery is not a reliable car, and after the sale care is non existent and is particularly bad from Head Office. The supplying dealer was a nightmare, (no longer a main Land Rover dealer) However the current servicing dealer Autonautica in Benidorm has been fantastic and always very helpful, the roadside assistance have been terrific too, (invaluable on the Land Rover Discovery) but in the long run it is Head Office that hold the key to providing the long-term solution, and thus it is with them we have the problem.

Hopefully, this forum will enlighten customers about our bad experiences, and also let other Land Rover Discover owners list there problems and grievances, so that prospective purchases of Land Rover products can see what they could be letting themselves in for, and subsequently that Land Rover realise the discontent of its customers and thus improve the reliability of the cars they manufacture and the after-car they provide for their customers, without whom, they would be out of business.

We feel that the product is fantastic in theory, but the practicalities of owning the car make the purchase of a Land Rover Discover a really bad and costly mistake, please feel free to comment on current articles, and add your own. We have an extensive Search Engine Optimisation and marketing campaigns and plan to make this website the major forum for all Land Rover models, we look forward to your help in achieving this.

*Please note all of the comments of this website and blog are of the individual opinions of the authors, and the owners of the website are not responsible for these in any way.

Comments:

Get rid quickly

Thanks for the info, that really helped me a lot, i was in two minds about buying one of these due to a bad previous experience with the old model, so now i know it has to be a Toyota, good luck, I would push Land Rover for a full refund, the product was not of merchantable quality.

Get rid quickly

Thanks for your support, yes I agree a full refund is what is required.

Water

My mate D3 hse has started letting water in the back soaking the carpets and making it smell bad inside.It's in the dearlership as we speak.

Problems galore but I love my Disco.

I love my Series II but it has had major problems such as auto gearbox failing, seats not locking into positions (up or down), tailgate lock jamming (can anyone suggest a fix?), power steering failing, and numerous other bits and pieces falling off, jamming or breaking. We looked long and hard for this model and we have been very disappointed in it's reliability. Yes we were warned, but it remained top of our list. Please LandRover, get your act together!

Top of List Too

Yes I understand, it was top of my list too, it suited all of the need that I had, but the vehicle is plagued with faults and unreliability, I am waiting to finish off a list of all of these which I will publish here shortly (its so long so it is taking quite a while). A few years ago my Friend was a sales manager for a major Land Rover dealership, I was looking to buy a Discovery from him, he in no uncertain terns told me not to buy one, he said they were all breaking down, and his job was so unpleasant dealing with all of the unsatisfied clients, the last thing that he wanted to do was to sell a Land Rover Discovery to a friend, buy Japanese he said. Because of the take over by Ford and the excellent road tests, I thought this had all changed and it was now a quality product, that is why I went ahead and purchased the series 3 model, unfortunately my assumptions were wrong, and the product or its unreliability has not moved on, so prospective purchases please be warned, do not make the same mistake as me, buy a BMW, Audi, Toyota, or something else as long as its not a Land Rover.

Persist for a refund

Your website looks great. I am so sorry you have had problems with your Disco. Do persist with a refund. I´ll stick with the old and battered models .... thank you very much.

Web site

well done on such a fab website, I will link it to mine www.landroverdontbuy.com next time I re do it. Looks really professional pity Landrover cant folloe your lead.

i'm A SHOGUN MAN NOW

I sold my lovely V8 G reg for a nice T reg TD5. the V8 was quite economical at 12 to the gal ..... Or it was when i consider the running cosst of the TD5. Bought at 66k at 3 year old lasted until 72K until a wire broke to the BCU(you will learn these terms if you own one) that repair involved a BCU replacement and new key (note key, not keys as they wanted another 90pounds for the spare) at 2,250pounds, followed by the alarm playing up at 2000 pounds then the head went at 88K 1,200 pounds then the clutch went at 99k 600 pounds. gear box was about to go so it did instead......... Total price of car 14k at 3 years old repairs in general 10k over 3 years sold for 5k at 6 years old cost of 3years motoring = 19k (without diesel, insurance tyres or car tax) i'm A SHOGUN MAN NOW stuff JLR.. Anycase JLR are the only manufactuerer to sell cars in monochrome.

Landroverdontbuy.com

I have read the Landroverdontbuy.com website, this all a while ago would have been a shock, but now i know better its no longer a surprise, good luck in your quest, lets hope that we will both be successfully in gaining a future refund, and subsequently be able to buy a better product.

Buy a Toyota

Loads of LandCruisers about... you can pick a 3.0l Colorado up between 3k-7k depending on preference... Got mine for 6k, 4yrs ago... spent nothing on it (yet!)...it's still worth £3k (with no thanks to Mr Brown) .... 160,000 on the clock...and it'll be good for another 100k.. It'll hit well over 100mph (not that i ever go over the speed limit ) ... I'd never buy a Disco... utter rubbish..

You're right!

Yes, I am thinking of buying a Toyota, on both occasions when my land rover discover broke down I was told by other balloonists there with Toyotas, to buy a Toyota, they never break.

Boy i'm so pleased i sold that car

Oh and whilst we are on the joys of owning a LR i had to ask all my collegues who own one not to visit me at my house once for a period of Two weeks. I couldn't enable or disable the alarm using the keys. Had to use the emergency access code in the drivers door to get in (which had changed due to the replacement BCU and the mechanic not updating the records, another tow up to the main dealer at my cost.) Turns out there was an errant radio signal in the vacinity and only land rovers were affected. Great when most of my friends own a defender and you can imagine the scene when a friend turned up out of the blue. A dash outside with arms waving "Don't turn it off. Go away" "Great" (or at least they did until they realised what issues they were getting with the clutches and the alarms). I had to get Offcom to correct the radio signal before i could set my alarm. Other issues: Radio gave up ACE Ecu had fault light. (Took a new ACE ECU and 5 flushes of the hydraulics to get that back ps £40 per flush) Boy i'm so pleased i sold that car

Buy a Shogun!!!!

Very clever , I'm impressed. Mind you I did tell you to buy a Shogun!!!!

major quality issues

Sorry to hear about all of your Land Rover problems, when I worked with them 1994- 1998 as a Sales Manager, yes there were major quality issues but I thought they had been resolved, not so.

Good luck with the refund.

Yes I can fully appreciate you being more than a little p***ed off with both the car and the manufacturer, Do you think your telling us something we don't already know? Good luck with the refund.

i would be very unhappy if i forked out over £25k

Blimey you really are p!!! with land rover but i can see why While we all love fixing a series or older defender vehicle as its part of the endearment, i would be very unhappy if i forked out over £25k and got your experience I wonder how many folks have gone to the bother of setting up a website about it

why did you not ask for a replacement vehicle?

if you were so unhappy with the product,why did you not ask for a replacement vehicle? Having been through this with a customer i can see both sides last time a chap went this way he had a full page spread in the times news paper as land rover were unhelpful in resolving his problem

Do you know what was the outcome

Do you know what was the outcome of that case? I would consider a replacement vehicle (depending upon what was offered) but they have not offered me that either! As I said before the car suited my purpose, but it can not be relied upon.

sounds like your dealer is at fault

sounds like your dealer is at fault there although with the freelander, defender, rrs why buy the disco

Supplying dealer

Supplying dealer no longer selling Land Rovers!

why in gods name did you not demand a replacement

Got to take issue with you here - It makes purchase and owning of your vehicle the mistake, NOT the D3 in general. Yes they have had some nightmares with them, a god read of the D3 webby will tell you that. Frankly, if you've had that many problems with it, why in gods name did you not demand a replacement vehicle. You are/were/would have been perfectly entitled to ask for one. Whilst I admit my Disco1 was froma used dealer, the first one I purchased had many problem which in some part they must have known about, so I demanded a replacement vehicle which I got.

I completely sympathise.

Seriously - sell the thing, get on with your life or take them to court. Obviously you have a lemon and you haven't been treated very well, so don't buy another one! I completely sympathise.

you have as good a case

You should let your website stand on its own two feet and gain support that way, if you have as good a case and marketing as you claim it will generate its own support

If I spent that much money on something that lets

If I spent that much money on something that lets me down would I be happy? and also it's not legally possible to cancel a warranty because a customer is not happy. Let's face it it's not the only duff Landrover out there is it? My neighbour's one cannot be parked on a slop without the alarm going off, and seems to be permanently in the shop judging by the number of dealer loan cars he's had. The onus is on the manufacturer and dealer to sort it out, if they don't then they should not be upset if the owner wants to share the grief. Having just had my car fail on Christmas Eve leading to returning home instead of going to see friends I can see the point. The RAC fixed my car, but recommended that I return to the dealer for a thorough check as it was likely to happen again. I called to book in and was given a date 3 weeks away, great if it happens again in the meantime. It's 10 months old, and they still can't fix a gearbox that makes everyone who drives it seem like a ham fisted amateur. As the second biggest purchase in most people's lives you have a right to expect it to be up to the job. I also sold my last car simply on the basis of poor dealer service, on the basis that they didn't deserve a penny more from my own earnings. Why should people accept poor service - go to most other countries and you don't see it

The most unreliable car I have ever owned.

The most unreliable car I have ever owned. In 30 months and 20,000 miles it had more than 17 weeks off the road, it had new engine, exhaust, inter-cooler in the first 5,00 miles. 8 months later the turbo fell off melting the weiring loom. a week later the front diff went, three months later the transfer box gave up, had water leaks and a bit of window trim fell off on the motorway. I must have done around 10,000 miles in courtesy cars, I have got rid of it at last before the warranty ran out, God help the poor guy that's bought it now. I now have a BMW X3sd and its brilliant.

This is the most unreliable car I have ever owned

This is the most unreliable car I have ever owned. It has been into the dealers for critical suspension faults four times. The front brakes wore to the metal without the warning light coming on (and Land Rover Assist said the car was safe to drive to the dealers), the rear handbrake shoes disintegrated locking the back wheels while driving. Twice the car has been returned to the dealer on a breakdown truck within hours of being repaired. The transmission has failed once. The rear wiper came off while driving and the sun roof drain pipes block pouring water into the cabin. Land Rover Customer Service don't return calls.

Great car when it works!!!

Great car when it works!!! Large piece of plastic ripped away from windscreen, while on moterway. On board computer warning of low coolant level, told by dealer to ignore (computer fault) Wheels badly out of alignment by 15000 miles (£75) The washer fuse has blown three times. Rear parking sensor does not work, most of the time. Don`t try to change a flat tyre, phone landrover!! Major fuel leak onto engine block (spilt pipe found only on final test drive while under service 35000k FIRE RISK)The car was gone for five days that time. Rear wiper works intermitantly. Driver seat leaver broken and so it goes on. But don`t ask the dealer about faults ( do not want to know)

We were told otherwise!

We purchased a Disco 3 in April. We are very pleased with the vehicle in general terms but there are a few niggles! 1. we had to have a complete nearside headlight replacement. 2. we had an air bag replaced due to a computer fault. 3. the rear access is a poor version of the previous model. You cannot reach the back of the boot space due to the lower tailgate opening downward. it would have been better to have retained the full door opening vertically. 4. there is a sign of transmision noise/clunk when moving forward from slow pace eg when in traffic and accelerating. 5. the mpg is poor - still only 24 average urban despite over 5,000 miles. We were told otherwise!

I can understand your disappointment

I can understand your disappointment with the faults on your vehicle and the poor dealer service; the fact that you have created a web page dedicated to the subject speaks volumes.

Discovery 3

I purchased the Discovery 3 for my retirement and to undertake a major round Australia trip and have to say when I took delivery I thought this is the best car I had ever owned, three years and 50,000 kilometres down the track my experience includes, instrument pack faulty and replaced, air suspension faults, two new front differentials, tie rod replacement, RH front lower ball joint arm and ball joint replaced, second lower ball joint replaced, three wheel alignments, front window not working, loose wiring, indicators not working, loose wires, water leaking from sunroof, (twice), radio not switching off, radio complete fail, an intermittent fault with another window not working and countless stop light globe replacements. The vehicle has never been off road, always garaged. In the case of my previous (and much less expensive) vehicles, a Nissan Pathfinder, a Mitsubishi Pajero and a Toyota Land Cruiser, I never had the need to replace tyres under 80,000 km, (I have now been informed that one tyre is scrubbed out and requires replacement and 3 nearly worn out). In addition, I usually get 70,000 kms on a set of brakes, 31,000 kms and required replacement. I have always purchased new vehicles, and I have never suffered the litany of maintenance difficulties and inconvenience with any other vehicle, save this Discovery 3. I note from some recent advertising that the Discovery 3 TDV6 has won fourth year in succession both the “Best Large Diesel Wagon” and “Best Overall” category. I certainly purchased my vehicle on the basis of the Discovery 3 being awarded the “Best 4 wheel drive of the year award” and am bitterly disappointed. I have lost total confidence in the Discovery 3 and certainly would not contemplate any form of remote travel in the vehicle. Complaining gets you nowhere on the local scene and ended up going direct to the CEO of Tata Motors, who referred back to the UK who referred back to Australia with no effort by Land Rover to negotiate at any point about what has clearly been a poorly built vehicle. I guess next step is to advertise my experience on the back of the TDV6 and go to court.

V8 Discovery

Bought a low mileage V8 and converted it to LPG. Found that Land Rover were not interested in official LPG conversions so no congestion charge reduction. After blown water pump, two broken coil springs, terrible choppy ride, and exploding air spring got rid. Will never buy another Land Rover again. Prefer any Japanese 4x4 to these blinged-up poncemobiles.

Don't buy one

I live in Australia, it is a big country and some places are very remote, land rover is not listening, they have created a land rover which cannot be relied on. The Australian army is soon to give them away after using them since the first series one, about 50 years ago? To me that is indication that they are now rubbish. I haven't heard anything good about the td5 engine, especialy it's computer, it is unreliable, expensive to repair, even has plastic oil bungs of all things, they are not built to last. I heard many expensive horror stories, from computers filling up with oil, even one that decided it had been stolen and wouldn't start, it had to be transported by truck to the nearest dealer about 1000 klm, it was hooked up to the diagnostic computer so it could be reset. At one time I was considering replacing my 1994 200tdi defender with one, not anymore it is very reliable, 300,000 klm;s on the clock, I have seviced it myself since new, it is wiser and so much cheaper to get a old defender with tdi 200 and 300 diesel engine, completly refurbish the whole vehicle it, parts are reasonable, paint it and have some thing you can use. By the way I have owned rovers for 35 years. So land rover I hope you wake up to yourself if you want to be successful in car manufacturing.

A Truly Useless Auto

I have 25 pages (repair invoices) from LR Dealer (Toronto) that validate the extremely problematic vehicle the Land Rover Discovery (2000) truly is. I would never buy another LR product or Ford for that matter. The final blow was a cracked block at 70K. Service was writing up an invoice for $15K for a new engine when I told them to stuff it and their product.

Been Cr*p for years

They been rubbish for years which is a shame when you consider the esteem in which they were once held &remember BMW sold Land Rover for a lousy quid! just to get rid. Obviously they knew something the buying public didn't Personally I think the media must carry some of the blame forever singing it's phrases without any dissent when they must have known all wasna reet at mill. No wonder they always seem to get whisked off to some exotic climes to test these motors. Needless to say I would never buy a vehicle on the basis of what I read in the motoring press

puncture

yesterday we suffered a puncture on the motorway, which of course, could happen to anyone. However, after the wheel had been replaced with its new tyre, could the tyre-centre get the spare back in place? No! was the answer, as the ratchet system which lowered the tyre had broken, and thus could not be wound back to replace the spare in its original position. This is the first time we have used the spare, so surely the mechanism should have a shelf-life to support more than once!!! So the puncture has cost me the tyre fee, plus 46 pounds for a new system to raise the spare tyre back up!!!!!! Wonderful! yours, Not Happy

Land Rover Discovery TDV6 S E

Anyone that has one of these cars GET RID QUICK. They are NOT safe. Whilst driving the car on Sunday there was smoke coming from the rear, we stopped in a layby and as we got out the car to see what was wrong, flames come up the passanger side of the car and from under the bonnet. Within 3 minutes the flames were avery where inside and out. The fire services were at the scene within ten minutes and it took nearly 2 hours to put the flames out. Thankfully the kids stayed home as there would not have been time to get them out. I am thinking of getting on to watchdog to warn everyone about it.

TDV6 HSE

Experts report done, particulars of claim drafted. Summons and Court action next -

D I S C O

Had a Disco 2 TD5 for three years now, only very minor problems so far, keep you posted though!

Thanks guys

Thanks for posting.. I am searching for a SUV for cariyng me and kayaks and bikes and orher stuff arround Europe (in the begining started looking for a van but then realised it would be strange to use a van as a everyday car.. didnn't want to own two cars so i started looking for a SUV more for the space than the offroad but still will be used alor on dirt roads )... I was looking at Volvo XC90 (i live in Sweden) mainly for 1-safety, 2-fuel friendly 3-clean and simple cokpit... then i discovered that some of them have problems with transmision (the ones with the general motor transmision) they eat rubber (25k miles for a set of tires was the average i found) and serviced 6 times untill 67k miles (for me it looks like too often).. then i was into BMW x5.. crap.. eats rubber.. they get 20 k miiles out of a set..not fuel friendly at all so no beemer for me.. The LR was the third.. i am disspaointed , tons of problems.. I guess I'll be still searching.. too bad there is no car that looks outside like a LR, inside like a Beemer , has a volvo safety and a toyota reliability .... Looking towards Toyota, Honda, Subaru amdn maybe Jeep (don't realy fancy the exterior and shore hate the interior... but i am buyng the car to use it , not to look at it.. Personal note.. How a old renault (my parents used to own) could go 110 k km with the same tires (~9 years) and same transmision ?!? Thanks again

Land Rover Rubbish

I have just spent 10 mins reading about your plight. I owned a new Range Rover TD6 in 2005 which I sold 10mths later following a series of problems which never got resolved. I found LR customer sevices arrogant and disinterested. Its funny I found this website whilst reviewing a road test report on the Discovery 4 which I was considering as a next purchase. I currently own a Toyota hilux and new shape BMW X5 and I have to say neither vehicles have been back to the supplying dealership other than for routine servicing - something you tend to take for granted until you read about LR - Thank you for reminding me NOT to buy LR

HELP!

Hi I am currently leaving post on www.preloved.co.uk where we are having a very heated debate over how good Land Rovers are. Why not join in, one contributor Dudkat72 says that you did not have a 3 year warrantee on your Disco? I owned a Freelander, which was a nightmare! Any chance you could contact all other people who might want to voice their opinion of Land Rovers on this website.

WELL DONE

well done on such a fantastic web site I have a disco 3 which as already had two faults and it is only 4 months old.

Never buy a land rover again

Finally got rid of my Land Rover. What a piece of crap! No wonder you do not see that many on the road, they spend most of their time in a garage than on a road. The resale value is only 1/6 of the original value. Guess what! I bought new cars and it is something reliable, a Subaru and a Suzuki (the last Suzuki I had lasts 15+ years with only regular oil changes needed and each oil + filter changes only cost me 40 bucks and no major fixes. Unlike LR which costs me more than a few hundred bucks for each oil change + regular garage visits to get problems fixes).

Never buy a land rover again

Resale value is only one-sixth of the original. Expensive services. Totally unreliable crap. The reason why you do not see that many on the road is because they spend more of their time in a garage. I had a Suzuki sidekick before and boy, it was reliable and took a lot of abuse. Only needed regular oil + filter changes. So, I bought a new car and guess what, it is a Suzuki while I let my wife use the Subaru.

Seat problems

We have a 1 year old Disco 3. After twelve months of wrangling and MULTIPLE returns to main dealer our seats still rock on their rails. I have been told unofficially that there is a known manufacturing fault with all the Disco 3s - LandRover have been appalling, I am now looking into to cancelling the lease and buying a Land Cruiser. Wish we kept our old Disco now.

I will never own a LR

I lived in britian and allways bought british car's, i have had 1 LR90, 1 dosov and 1 rangerover, all 3 cars broke down,for some reason. At the pub i would put excuse after excuse why they broke down so much, "it was the weather" too hot too cold " in the end i ran out of excuses,and realised i was making a fool of my self, never again LR

landrover quality

Have in the distant past,owned a 2a and v8 ist type rangy,reliabilty poor but always got home having bag of tools,but both good towcars and were third vehicles,bought new td5 discovery as prime vehicle, I usually do my own check just make sure a few weeks after delivery found oil seal leak on transfer box,and low oil level in front diff ,no leaks so not filled correctly at factory.sold within 18 months as iit kept stalling and wife did not like it.Wife wanted a new Disco three,bought demonstrator fantastic ride and comfort,superb tower of any trailer,lots of room inside,just before warranty ran out it all went wrong,suspension went funny ,dog would not go near the vehicle,wife carsick after 40 miles ,local agent could not fix to our satisfaction then all warning lights kept coming on,tyres wore out a twenty k.Traded in for top of range Nissan x trail,reliable ,good on fuel but worst towing vehicle I have ever owned,the rides terrible with a ton on the hook.My dilemma now is that wife wants a disco 4 as she liked the comfort and towing abilty,but will it it be another disaster,I am good with the spanners but you can no longer fix modern motors unless you have a laptop I would like a Toyota but the top one with decent engine and hi/low box is close to £60 grand.

Dont but a Discovery 4 see letter from new owner

I would keep well clear see the letter called disco 4, they have had loads of problems.

Disco 4 STAY AWAY

My husband and I recently bought a Disco 4. We live in South Africa. Twice the vehicle warning light has come on warning us not to drive the vehicle due to the hand brake not releasing. Once the LR refused to start and LRSA could not care less. DO NOT EVEN THINK OF BUYING ONE-BUY A TOYOTA.

problems

yo guys, what sort of problems have you been getting with your discover?

Land Rover Discovery 2001

I agree, spent $9,000 on the vehical two years ago (from an honest attorney) and have spent another $4,500 trying to get the engine light or other lights off every other day. I could live with these lights however the car will not pass inspecition with these lights on. Driving home today the car incline light came on with a load beeping sound. Any one know what this is? In any event, just spent $800 last week fixing another light to have this one come on. Do not buy a Land Rover!

Tata read this...

Message to Tata: Websites like this must be doing untold damage to your sales and brand image. If you dismiss the posts in this website as being from a bunch of ‘disaffecteds’ then see which.co.uk/cars which says "Almost half of the Discoveries in our survey needed repairs in the last 12 months..." (2006). And in their 2009 brand reliability survey Which? gave Land Rover a 1 (out of 5) star rating. The problem of selling an unreliable product is made ten times worse by not dealing effectively with customers who have had a problem. Try asking yourselves the question “Who is the most important individual in the Land Rover organisation? If you have replied ‘factory floor worker, managers or Chief Executive' then think again. The answer is 'your customer'! You have a strong brand name and superbly design cars, let down by a lack of build quality and an indifferent attitude to your customers. You might want to consider putting improved reliability and customer service at the top of the agenda of all your meetings and generate a culture around this. If any of your staff do not support you then encourage them to seek employment opportunities elsewhere. You cannot continue to depend on a strong Land Rover brand name without nurturing it. The consequences of failing to act, are a tarnished brand image and loss of sales and competitiveness. I for one was considering buying a new Discovery 4 HSE, but, unless I see good evidence of a change, I will not be doing so. I doubt if I am alone. So come on Tata - get your act together!

td5 Discovery2

What can I say. Bought what I thought was a brill car 04 plate, 38,000 with full dealer service history £14,000. 1.5 years later new clutch, oil from injectors migrating into ECU, replaced air suspension, now it seems I've got to replace the cylinder head - £2,400 - for a reconditioned one as I cant get a new one (they're on back order) new one will cost best part of £3,000 to replace but can't get my hands on one. Crack in the cylinder head leading to diesel entering the engine oil sump - I was driving 200 miles at motorway speeds - think I'm lucky the engine didn't grind to a halt or blow up. Phoned Land Rover in Sollihull - waste of time - talk about keeping things at arms length never buy Land Rover again - going Jap or Korean. I'm really sad and really unhappy about the quality control and after service provided by Land rover for a car that I desired for many years!!! What can I say - wanted to support Land Rover and British motor engineering but I just can't afford to keep this poor quality car on the road.

Landrover defender"puma"

Enquiry:Please can you give me any info on Landrover defender"puma" as i have major problems with my new Defender Puma and landrover deny there is a problem The vechile has been in the garage for 10 weeks this year and still Landrover will not accept there is a problemThe car has been towed 4 times

Puma starter and power problems

Hi I would like to see the rest of this article. My Puma has starter and power problems. Landrover defender"puma" Enquiry:Please can you give me any info on Landrover defender"puma" as i have major problems with my new Defender Puma and landrover deny there is a problem The vechile has been in the garage for 10 weeks this year and still Landrover will not accept there is a problemThe car has been towed 4 times

Disco 2 blown head gaskets

Year 2000 Series 2 Disco petrol V8 purchased from new and FLRSH. First head gasket blew when it was just out of warranty, second one went at 75k; its now done 120k and it looks like the gaskets gone again. On a V8 its not a cheap job. On contacting LR when the first head gasket went they didnt want to know. The above was in addition to a catalogue of other problems. Best way to hurt LR is simply not to buy their cars; only when there sales plummet will they do anything. My next purchase will be jap. I will not buy or ever recommend a Land Rover to anyone.

disco 4

Thanks for all the info I was keen on buying a 2nd hand one in a few years time for my 4wd trip around oz will look else where now

Never again

Yes totally agree with every statement on this website. Used to own a Freelander, then Discovery. Constant hassles.Stranded by TD5 twice in a month with different faults (ie rusty wires on starter motor.....what on a 5 year old car???). Complained to Head Office. Usual excuses and waffle about how they value their loyal customers. I am not one of them! Now drive a Mitsubishi. Hassle free bliss! To all owners......good luck.....you will need it (and a fat wallet)

300tdi wont start

Hi, I have got a 1996 300tdi Discovery, Intermittently it will not start. I have all lights on the dash shining bright; the battery is only 4 months old. When I turn the Key I can’t hear the starter clicking, but I can hear a small click from the glove box area. Oh and recently it cut out on the motorway at speed, and the came back to life on it own \r\n Any Ideas Regards Bill

Ex-Land Rover Fan

I ran a series of Land Rovers from a 108 Safari through to a 90 TDi. They were great vehicles and only on one occassion did I experience a breakdown. Life changed and we bought a new (fairly) early Discovery. It was a wonderful car to drive but after 3 gearboxes in 100k I parted company with the marque. Since then it's been a series of Japanese vehicles, two Troopers, a Vitara and now a RAV4. When I was buying the RAV4 I seriously considered a Freelander but the dealerships were more interested in preserving the percieved "quality" and "value" of what they were selling than talking sensible and in detail about the vehicles. No problem with the test vehicle is was a nice drive and felt as though it might be of better quality than some of their previous nightmares. Bottom line: my trust in Land Rover has gone completely. I'm not sure that Ford every did LRJ any favours. Their policy of common componentry between marques must have made economic sense to them but we ended up with everything they made looking like a Transit Van!

Buy New or Under Warranty

These are designed for the well to do who does not care about cost Period! If you buy one thinking you can beat this, then you'll be suprised!

My Disco 3

I bought a Disco 3 in June 2010, part-x'ed my brand new Mitsubishi Outlander for it as the Outlander wouldn't pull my horse box. Only 4 days after getting it the suspension warning light came on telling me to slow down to 30 mph, I was on the M56 at the time so you can imagine how difficult it was to slow down that much safely. The car has been in and out of the garage to be repaired. They finally put new sensors on it after Landrover Assist told me thats what it needed. I had nearly 2 months of peaceful driving but it's back again and the car is back in the garage. I am just glad it didn't happen when I was towing my horses as when it goes the suspension drops down and the car bounces over every bump in the road. If the box was on with the horses God only knows what would have happened. I am so disappointed and thought more of Landrovers than this. Its a 57 plate and only had 28,000 miles when I bought it. Probably spent most of its time being repaired. I have lost so much money on my Outlander then had to put another £4,000 to the Landrover if I sell it now I will lose so much and I hate the thought of it being passed on to someone else to suffer these problems as what I make out from the web is the problem always comes back.

TD5 Dream In Africa

Hi all, came across this website by chance looking for Land Rover Head Office. Sorry to hear all your woes. We own a 2001 TD5 Diesel. Same problems as you have. In the first year we broke down every 300 km or so. Water pipes bursting, (vehicle was NEW!!!) oil pump blowing, christmas tree lights alway flashing on, on the dash. Ping, ping, ping all the way down the freeway and through the bush in Mozambique. (no workshops / spares there). The gear box failed (manual), the turbo blew, the poor thing overheated endlessly. I refused point blank much to my darling better half's dismay to sell my baby Landy. I still own my 1st car ever bought, (BMW) it will go to the grave with me. Anyway, we have been problem free with our beautiful Landy for the last 6 SIX (yes six) years. It has travelled the whole of Southern Africa through gruelling terrain, and to all the Toyota punters out there, we have passed many broken down in the bush, or halfway through a river, you most definately DO break down, alot. We have rescued more other make 4 x 4's than we can count. Whats the secret to our problem free driving. WE FIX IT OURSELVES!!!! We told Land Rover to shove their warrenty, bought a book, dug a trench in our driveway so we could stand under the vehicle and spent ever free moment learning about our vehicle. If you are going to drive it, learn how to fix it. We took out the air suspension, replaced with springs. Bounces alot, but no problems. Ping, ping, ping - no more, after fitting the most expensive break-pads we could find. It does slow town driving every day with me, +/- 70km stop start, as well as week long expeditions into serious bush every two months or so. I LOVE my Land Rover, but will never ever take it to a dealer. EVER. You want a problem free Landy, do not send it to them for anything, I thought it was only in SA that we had the bad workmanship. Obviously not. I wanted to ask Land Rover Head Office, if they could recommend an Exhaust Filter for soot control on mine, but after your problems, think I'll figure it out myself. Best of luck to all out there, remember, it is a good vehicle, just the human factor thats not.

Another Breakdown

My Land Rover Discovery 3 has broken down for the third time, this time suspension, buying this car has been the worst purchase of my entire life! Please everybody never buy a Land Rover Discover or any Land Rover product, you will be sorely disappointed.

Again MY DISCO 3

Well put the Landrover back into servicing again and again the computer had recorded there was an error but no one knows what this error is. Told they couldn't find a fault but had recalibrated the computer. Day after getting car back my biggest nightmare happened, I was towing my box with one of my horses home after show jumping and the suspension fault came up again. Car sat down and had now suspension had to pull in 4 times take key out then in again. It was dark and the traffic was heavy so the car, box and horse swayed which was not only scarey for the horse but for us too. Phoned the dealer and they said they wanted to try and fix it them selves so I agreed but in the back of my mind I knew it would happen again. After having the car from the Friday until the Wednesday, got the explanation of it was the wiring and they had reprogrammed the computer, recalibrated sensors etc etc. Heard it all before on the forums. Friday 1st fault appeared again then nothing for 6 days then it happened 3 times in as many miles. Now they want the car for a week and if that fails they say they will exchange it, but do I really want to go through it again with another. Love the car when it works properly but it is more unreliable than my kids promises to do the washing up.

TD4 Freelander dumped very quickly

Hello All. I had a very brief brush with the famous Landrover reliabilty problems. Purchased a 2001 TD4 Freelander earlier this year (2010) to be used as a second "fun" car to take to the snow but after one week of driving around town it just would not warm start in a shopping centre car park. I had the car flat trayed back to the dealer where it sat for a week at the end of which I was told "there was no problem" I though, hmmm that was not the kind of fun and reliability I was looking for in a car that might be parked 100 kilometres or more up some dirt track late one night way out of mobile phone range. Subsequently discovered these Landrover problem site(s) and decided to cut my losses straight away, take the initial hit to the wallet and move on with my life. Am now the very satisfied owner of a new Suzuki Grand Vitara that has already spent losts of time playing in the mountains here in Oz this last winter. Once bitten twice shy on European cars, my other car is a Toyota that has gone the last seven years on only scheduled services and never missed a beat.

TD5 -5 no stars

To buy or or not to buy.?Maby a landrover body with a toyota the rest might work,then on the other hand why not just buy a toyota and be done with all landies problems.Ive had two td5s and both had no end to problems,but its a car one can love to hate if that makes any sence to you,my third and finial choise was what decided me against any furture landrovers in my parking bay,one look at this new old landie put me off for life,some 70000rand had been spent on services repairs and it had a worn gearbox and who knows what else is still in store,maby a total replacement of parts might help.No furture for this very unreliable car.

landrovery

this car is a heap of rubbish suspension dropping after 12 miles every time land rover dealers can not find the problems

I hate Landrovers

We had a Freelander and it was a piece of CRAP!

Discovery 3 V6 petrol - numerous problems

My Disco 3 is five years old and has done just over 12000 kilometers - so far it has let me down 3 times in the last years - first the terrain response and active suspension failed due to a broken wire on a wheel speed sensor - then the fuel guage failed (apparently a weel known Landrover problem which has persisted without solution for years) then most spectacularly 3 months ago it dropped a valve into one of the pistons requiring major engine and head repairs - on top of this I've had to replace the front lower control arms and ball joints and it goes through tyres like my 6 year old goes through shoes despite no off road use - I really don't know when to cut my losses and get rid of it. I really wish I'd listened to all the people who advised me not to do it and rather get a Toyota!!!

Discovery LR3 Flooaded

Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Hussien Tamam, a proud owner of Land Rover LR3. Recently I came across an unfortunate incident that requires your immediate involvement as a reputable manufacturer of some of the most recognized vehicles on the road. Last week to be exact I was exposed to what I would describe as a moderate to severe participation in the form of rain. To make the long story short, the vehicle was semi flooded and I had to exit through the window after I the vehicle came to a complete halt and the electrical system complete failure. Well my main concern with the whole situation was how I was received by the dealership. When I made the decision to purchase the LR3 from a various range of automobiles in its category, I made my decision to purchase the vehicle with the support and customer care the Land Rover is known for. So it came to me as a surprise when the local dealer took a decision after a vague inspection that they are familiar with what happened and it would be a cheaper to report it to the insurance for a refund as it would be cheaper to replace then fix. With all due respect to whatever protocol your dealerships follow to attain a problem, from my profession as a senior pilot for a reputable airliner, I know better than being told that a Land Rover would not work on fixing but rather exchanging. My study of the LR3 before the purchase assured me that no matter how tough the situation is, the LR3 would back me up and I also assumed that the LR3 would be backed up itself by its manufactures through its dealership network. The 2009 LR3 was purchased in Dubai where I had full trust in the dealership and due to my job relocation I ended up in Casablanca, where such incident took place. Now with nowhere to go for realistic support that I would consider as logical I ask of you as a reputable manufacturer that should be concerned for the satisfaction as well as safety of their customers to interfere and guide me with the proper lead to resolve my situation. My LR3 has less that 14000km on it, and with an investment in such a vehicle that is by no means cheap I do not expect less than first class customer care. My contact: Hussien Tamam Phone Num: +212671097948 The dealership: Land Rover, Casablanca, Morocco.

disco 3

DONT BUY ONE!!!!! Nothing but trouble i promise you!!!

Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE

In May of 2010 I purchased my first Disco and have so far (21/1/11) done 24,000 km much of which has been off road. I have experienced no problems whatsoever. Prior to the purchase I researched the market thoroughly even interviewing many owners. The only other vehicle in contention was the Toyota Lancruiser 200 series (Amazon in UK) but it has many problems here in Oz ( high fuel and oil consumption, bad dust sealing, transmission etc). So a happy Disco owner so far!

disc td5 and disco 3

why why why did i BUY MY SECOND LANDROVER, these cars are Crap compared to Japs, Got my first one as I had dreamed about owning one since I was a kid, a TD5 thought it would last for many many years amnd at least 200,000 miles alas I was so so wrong, I payed a premium price for a lump of junk too may fixes , had to use waterproofs inside the vehicle due to extreme leaking from both sunroofs, where is the great british workmanship there eh? oil leaking into the ECU which was the final straw for me but did I learn, NO Itraded it in , got next to nothing for it only 81k on the clock and got myself a TD3 tyres last only 30 k , drivrs door lock needs to be replaced, radio kept dying , now out of warranty so will sell as soon as I can and get a Jap, at least they are reliable and last a hell of a lot longer than British rubbish. I will never ever buy a landrover again.

Dates of the complaint

It's a shame that there is no dates associated with all these responses. As a car is released I would think that fixes are put into place as more of the same model is rolled out from the factory. I am wondering if anyone has had problems with purchasing new Discovery 4 since November 2010

Bonnets up

I am a lorry driver in the uk and i see more disco's and range rovers on the side of motorways with their bonnets up than any other vehicle. iv'e had a range rover, but could'nt keep up with the repairs. now buy japanese. BLISS.

Secondary Turbo

I understand that the Disco 4 range have been recalled in South Africa as threre are apparantly problems with the vehicles ' secondary turbos. Anybody aware of this problem elsewhere?

Buy Tpyota

I love the design and comfort of the disco and have been tempted to buy one for year, but after reading these reports which confirm testimonies I have heard I must stick with logic over emotion. I have a 1994 80 series Landcruiser I have used for work towing trailers 90% of its life with 2500 kg load. This vehicle has done 524,000klms, and has never broken down. Repairs, two radiators, numerous brakes and one set of rotors afetr market $80, numerous batteries. Front diff repair for noise.Biggest repairs, reco fuel pump and injectors $3000, still runs like a charm kust done a 2000klm round trip to nrth Qld with a trailer on siting on 80- 110klms. Replaced all the suspension two years ago and rides andd steers like new again. This vehicle has only ever stoped when I have run out of fuel then switch to reserve tank and it fires up and goes again (turbo deisel). AQs much as I would like a the comfort and prestige of a European 4WD I think I will stick to a proven product. We do a lot of long trips and I could not live with a vehicle that would be unreliable,my business and safety depent on reliability. Thanks for sharing the views it has helped me avoid a possible big mistake, I will be keeping My 80 series which I have now retired and am converting to a camping vehicle and now are looking maybe to get a Prado which have a great reputation here in Ausi. Macaky.

Two sides of the story

Sorry to hear about your troubles and of course both dealership an LR do have responsibilities here. You also have a responsibility as an owner. It seems you have gona along with this blind, deaf and dumb. Obviously the dealer never should have sold such a complex car and obviously Land Rover does not admit to their very real quality problems. This is a fact. But these cars require "awake" ownership, both regarding to using the vehicle correctly, knowing the vehicle and being an active owner, not relying solely on the dealer/workshop. Sorry, I've been a Land Rover owner for more than 7 years (Discovery2 and Discovery/LR3) and been very happy with the cars. I have NOT been happy with Land Rovers attention to their own lack of quality assurance and/or the dealerships willingness to discuss these problems with Land Rover. I have been very aware of this and pushed through problem solving and issues myself. It seems corporate brass in Land Rover either don't know or don't want to hear about the real problems and dealers don't have the capacity to learn what and how. That is crucial for happy Land Rover owners. Sorry, but this car needs attention from every part of the chain. And obvioulsy you've been an ignorant owner, too.

Friends

I am at a loss as why you did not listen to your friend, LR Dealer, what more of an informant would you need, don't buy he said, buy something else he said but you didn't take the hint, THATS WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR, for Christs sake. Thats one of the problems these days, no-one cares to listen, if a Friend told me that, I would say thanks friend, but not you, you heard great road reports, but your friend said don't buy one, you heard Fords taking over, but your friend said,don't buy one, but you know better than him, because some writer who gets paid to tell lies, doesn't care one way or the other. I have yet to purchase our 4WD, its been 12 months now and I am still researching, I have narrowed it down to 3, I am in no hurry, big purchase,last vehicle and I question motorists in the streets, plus an minuses, read road reports and reviews. Yes it would help if the many writers above would put in a date, just going on the year models doesn't help much, some vehicles are over 11yo, what do you expect from aging vehicles, like new? Then theres the boofheads who say, I'ma Ford man, I'ma Toyota man, I'ma LR man and it doesn't matter if you tell them the cars crap, they won't listen, just pig-headed will not listen to facts or figures, they know better than others brands, because my daddy had one for yrs and whats good for dad is good for me and thats why you hear ppl moan after elections, because I always vote Labor, Conservative,Liberal,Green because my daddy voted labor and my grandfather voted labor and my great-grand-daddy voted labor, well guess what, times change and if you have no sense to listen to your FRIEND, then you deserve what you get and got. I don't expect this to be published because you only want to hear from whingers who also didn't research their vehicle, so many complaints,since they are on this page that means they have a computer which means they can read reviews and car reports, obviously not one of them did any research, not much use complaining now is it. Don't forget the site My cars a Lemon, Google Crap Cars, Google Bad reviews, research reseach research, its your money and next time listen to your friends otherwise you won't have many left if you ignore them and their ADVICE. New South Wales, Australia Sun. 17/4/11

Freelander owner was thinking of buying Disco 3

I currently own a 2003 Freelander Kalihari 1.8 petrol, manual shift, 5door station wagon. I am the second owner. Freelander's have a list of typical faults, all of which have happened to mine. i.e. head gasket replaced and head skimmed plus all the belts changed and a service - cost £500 at an independent Rover specialist. Prior to this the same work on an Alfa Romeo 156 cost me £872 so I was relatively happy with the freelander work. I have the car for three years and in that time have done 37,000 miles. In the three years it's been off the road for repairs for only 5 days. I bought and replaced the driver's door electric window mechanism only for it to fail after 4 months. I phoned the Land Rover dealership in Glasgow where I bought the part and even though I myself fitted the part which failed, the dealership insisted that as the part was under warranty, THEY would fit the new one, which they did free of charge. When I got the car back I was handed a 'vehicle health check' sheet that the mechanic had drawn up. Here are some of the 'rip off' examples for the check list. 1. Noisy/broken rear suspension bush, there repair cost - £286. My own cost buying part and having a local garage fit it - £50. 2. Broken viscous coupling damper bush - cost £768, My own cost buying the part and having a local garage fit it - £120. 3. Replacement front brake disks and pads - cost £320. My own cost buying the parts and having a local garage fit them - £85. Any dealership irrespective of what marque is involved will NOT offer you a competitive price for repair work or servicing. Last week I took a 2.7 TD V6 Discovery 3 for a test drive and was dissapointed by it's lack of throttle reponse, in has covered only 38,000 miles and is priced at £18,000, I will be seriously taking another long hard look a 4 x 4s after reading all these posts however, what I will say now is if you surf the web for ANY make of car, they ALL have forums exactly the same as this one, full of disgruntled owners with a plethora of 'typical' faults so it's not just Land Rover. I think the trick is to 'know' what you are after, thoroughly do the required research and get the car A.A. checked if you're in the U.K. if you're not, take a good mechanic with you and if there's even a small hint that something is not quite right after taking the test drive and having 'your' experts evaluate the car, simply walk away, there's plenty of cars out there.

Buying a Disco

Have been considering buying a Disco to replace my Mitsubishi Shogun. It is now no longer my plan! Great site.

discovery 2 td5 2002 reg auto

yes i have had loads faults brake pads,gearbox pipe split oil on road,rad leak,drive plate u/s gearbox out, injecter wiring oil up wire into box,fuel pump,feul pressure regulator, cuts out, loads more this on 70.000 miles car crap

Range Rover - same as all of the,

Bought a new model RR 4.4 TDI in Nov when the new model was released.. Would advise anyone considering a RR to forget it and go with the Audi or BMW. JLR have ZERO customer care. We wait now for nearly 2 weeks here in Romania for a DP filter to come.....what a joke. Nice car if you leave it in the shed. For us first and absolute last. Should have looked at this gerat site prior.

Disco

Since 1994 I have been the owner of 110 Defender single cab, and have replaced the water pump and fuel tank – my fault as I live on a farm and sometimes drag the wife’s horsebox around. Apart from that, my 'ride' has served me very well on the farm in France without the need for any return to the mothership for a fresh download of commands to control her. She may not be the fastest on the road, but she gets there, and I attribute this to the simplicity of the engine control. I have been an electronics engineer for many years, and see with every evolution of the instrumentation that I work upon, the poor quality control of software control and cheaper quality components. If anybody from LandRover management is reading, that resistor sourced from the new supplier in China may save you a few pence on the component, but with the price tag you ask these days for your product, you should really have stayed with a quality supplier. Oh, and lest you forget, you may save yourself a few quid per vehicle in manufacturing costs, but you cost a lot of other people a hell of a lot more. Keep it simple, keep it going. A few years ago I was preparing to upgrade to a Discovery, and then read the horror stories, so stayed clear. Recently, I thought I might take a Disco, but it seems that once again, the rush to market of new product has taken precedence over quality to market. I work in a totally different sector to the auto industry, but it seems that all companies involved in technology are asking a greater price for poorer – and I mean sustainable quality - product. In my industry, it is so bad now, that existing customers are afraid of upgrading hardware or software for fear of hitting control problems that mean expensive downtime for their productivity. If LandRover are anything like my company, HQ sell to the dealer, who is then responsible for all maintenance of sold vehicles. The dealers must be pulling their hair out if this is the case, whilst LandRover HQ count the dividends from their options. Hey, Mr. Beancounter for LandRover. Your quick cost cutting exercise at HQ has just lost you 50k from someone who is loyal to the core LandRover ethos. Something I fear was killed off some time ago when your company sold out.

Disco engine failure

I am compelling information about Land Rover, V 8 engine failures; more specifically in Discovery II & P38 with engine blocks casted from aluminum alloy - including Throttle Body Coolant Heater Flange. If you have any knowledge of people who have had to replace their engines because of failures, please have them contact me.

Don't BUY FROM EITHER MILFORD or GUILFORD, CT.

We bought a 2004 Disco form Milford/Guilfrod, CT. and we had engine failure - the engine cracked! All this stem from the BAD Aluinum alloy engines that were put into Discovery II & P38 RR. The is a long history (which I found out after we had the problem) of engine faillures. Please refer to: http://robisonservice.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=19 for a very indepth blog. If this has happened to you pleae contact me.

L/Rover 100% RUBBISH

LandRover raped my arse I have no money left as its ALWAYS breaking down and cost zillions to keep it running Worthless as a trade in. I will NEVER buy another British junkbox again

LandRover Take Note!!!

I am just in time to read your website!!! I made an appointment to test drive a 2011 Rangie Vogue Supercharged and a Disco 4 HSE V8 tomorrow as my brother and I update our family cars every 2 years and it is time. I have owned 3 Disco's and 2 Rangie Autobiography. My brother has had 3 disco's and 2 rangie Sports. The last 3 SUV's I've owned have been Porsche Cayenne Turbo S's and I must say they have been beyond incredible machines and I would never want another 4wd. If I couldn't afford the turbo s i'd work my way down the list to a model I could afford. Brilliant customer service, brilliant reliability and generally love the car as a fun, family, practical beast. Was considering the Disco 4 as we have a new baby on the way and having the extra seats is going to really be a help. Out of Audi, Merc, BMW and LR, I think the Disco 4 is the best looking and it would do all the off road work i need it to and all my towing and kid carting perfectly, problem is I need it to work. LANDROVER, I hope you see that this little fella over here in Australia was about to spend about $600,000 on your product tomorrow as I was going to buy all my Partners matching cars. Looks like you not looking after LANDROVERHELL, I might have to compromise and give in on how much I hate jap car looks and driving dynamic and potentially go the LEXUS TRUCK or a Merc GL500 and a few ML63's. Dont want to sound smug or arrogant, but I can be as Im the customer, you don't listen, you don't want my business. In 2011 you have to understand the average consumer has more of a voice than former celebrities and politicians as we can tell anyone the truth faster than you can mute it. Get your act together and look after your clients. The cheapest new customer to find and advertise for is your current clients. Stop spending money on advertising, spend it on your clients, you might turn your failing business around if you listen.

Discovery 2 Faults etc

I will never purchase another Land Rover, my Discovery 2 , has had exhaust studs break twice in 12 months, steering box oil leak, blocked drain pipes on sun roof, leak around windscreen (still to be pinpointed, a windscreen fitter told me they all do it) heated driver seat does not work, radio display tells me I have a telephone call - No phone fitted !! , the fuel consumption is truly dreadful, 23 mpg average, Rear door seal leaks, took it to Local dealer they told me it was rear window seal even when I could see it leaking in across top of door seal (now fixed by myself) its a 2003 model had 63,000 miles on clock when purchased and was in pristine condition inside and out, I have now found corrosion on main chassis, however on the plus side it was good in the snow, and it tows better than a Jeep, should have bought a Toyota

Toyota

I have a Toyota Hilux Surf. I was going to change it for a Discovery for towing, but after viewing and test driving numerous ones have realised how inferior they seem, i.e. sluggish to drive, bodywork, doors etc poorly put together and coming apart, door locks not working, rust ridden underneath, leaky and bulky, rust under seals around the doors and bits looking as though they are about to fall off. My Surf is 17 years old and is in far better condition that some younger Discoveries I have seen. I have now decided to stick with Jap 4x4s.

new defender sucks

I want to see a defender on the road, look at it, and to think, that´s a defender, despite the changes, it still looks a defender, just what Jeep did with the jeep wrangler. Jeep deserves all my consideration, because that made the Land Rover could not make. Jeep will be the next land rover, i will buy a jeep because jeep, land rover is death

Poor Service

I wil use all your info on the poor service aspect and try to help our clients must better in south africa ,stellenbosch.

The end of the Defender

It's bad, but not all bad.. I've seen photoshop pictures of this with real off road tires and roof rack and so on, and it could be worse (like in this pictures from the show), BUT, it looks like an ugly yeti combined with a pimpet mini.. And it is NOT a Defender! So.. Yes, even if I see some small positv signs, it is what it is, a wannabe 4x4 for housewife's getting the kids at school.. And that is NEVER what the defender was meant to do.. So if they stick with this, i just ask them: PLEAS let the Defender name die with the one that is now, and let i do so in pride and not with this plastic fantastic bull shit.. And the front.. don't even get me started, I know about the regulations, but still, this is one of the worst I ever seen.. by anyone car manufacture.. It look like a china copy of a real car.. We that own a Defender, or a Series Land Rover takes pride in driving it, using it, restoring it, and abuse it.. And therefor they are one of the most iconic cars ever build. Do they honestly think that in 30-40-50 years from now most of these new "defenders" could say the same? Do they think they are still on the road, of the road or plunge thrue desert, climb mountains, deep in the jungle or just as a working horse on a farm? I think not. This will for me be the day Land Rover dies. Sorry.. It has been a great honor to be a part of the LR community for all these years. Nicholas, Norway PS. I have a idea of what the guys are doing, for in the world of big money and capitalism it's stupid to build something that last forever, that never dies.. Why should peoples then buy new cars? Well, there you have it.. It's a sad day when one of the most iconic company takes every bits of it's history and throw it a way in the name of profit.. But this is what the world have become. -and I that was stupid of thinking that LR was different..

Disco-love

It must be love: no other vehicle could possibly have so many unhappy owners. Water leaks, breakdowns, warning lights (don't talk to me about electronics!) all because LandRover will not spend a little more making their 50k motorcar reliable. Is this a British thing? Is it because we love to whinge? No, LandRovers, when they work, are the best. It's just a pity that the downtime is increasing with the amount of sub standard gadgets and googits loaded into the poor animal. Buy German!!!

Disco 3

Have bought a disco 3 on 08. Park break failure appears on screen, radio turns off, and a loud alarm often wails..... any ideas?

Never ever ever (ever) buy a Landy

I bought a 2.5 year old Discovery 3 V6 petrol (I'm in South Africa) with only 60,000km on the clock. I've had it 3 years and done only about another 60,000km. These are the littany of problems I've had. 1 Complete failure of traction control and electronic terrani response due to chaffing anof wire on LHS front wheel speed sensor. 2 Replacement of front control arms at only 100,000km 3 Major engine damage requiring total engine rebuild due to valve dropped through no 1 piston 4 Failure of 5th door locking mechanism in closed position with no possible overide 6 Blockage of sunroof drain channels resulting in major water ingress 7 Breakage of 3rd row seat actuator handle (cheap plastic) 8 Breakage of radio selector buttons (cheap plastic) 9 Radio often decides to stay on when car is switched off and and then doesn't respond to any buttons 10 Numerous randon fault messages related to terrain response and DSC 11 Continious low coolant indicator on start up that no one can trace 12 Total petrol gauge failure due to failure of soldered conection in sender unit - this couldn't be corrected without majhor surgery involving removal of petrol tank and indinuity. These are all a combination of shoddy design and manufacturing All in all a total and utter nightmare - clearly the boys at Solihull are maintaining the great British Leyalnd traditions - remember this is supposed to be a premium off road vehicle capable of the most arduous expedition use - do you think I'd risk going very far in this piece of crap - no wonder all they ever get used for in the UK is trips to school and Tesco Everynoe warned me and told me to buy a Toyota but because I'm British I had some misplaced sense of patriotism - I won't make the same mistake again - a pity because probably the Indians will sort it all out and the next generation will be better.

Discovery

I had a top of the range K Reg Land Rover Discovery (from new). It was the worst car I've ever owned in my life, and I made Land Rover buy it back from me when the 3 year warranty expired. I replaced it with a top of the range Defender. An excellent decision. I still find it difficult to believe both cars were made by the same company!

Don't make my mistake

I bought a used 2003 Freelander which had total engine failure at less than 42000 miles. Costs more to fix than car worth so total loss. Researched it and evidently lots of people have problems with them. Never again.

Air Ride Suspension Kits

I've just read this and I was in shock. It was my uncle's dream car due to its sporting attributes. Nevertheless, I want to thank you for sponsoring this information. Experience using a product set standards for quality of the product itself.

disco 2

Interesting website. Our 2000 (W Reg) Disco 2, was purchased as the beast to pull the family 2 ton six berth caravan, which is does with ease. Touring Normandy and Brittany was dogged with problems, for the sake of a corroded starter motor cable and a leaking rear passenger airbag. What was shocking was the repair costs quoted in France. £4000 Euros to replace the airbag. I contacted our local specialists, Excalibur 4x4 in England. The part was £104. Mark would have flown out and fitted it for us for not much more !! The French mechanics would not fit any parts supplied by the customer. The starter motor cable ended up being a simple cash deal. £30 quid. Job done. This week it's just biting the bullet. The list of common Disco 2 faults is always the same, so i'm just getting them done. See if any of these ring a bell with you. I've already had the modified diesel injector harness replaced to stop oil migration to the ECU. 1. remove headlining, attend to poor spot welding causing leaks. Replace both sunroof seals. 2. Replace rear tailgate locking mechanism. 3. replace ABS sensors causing ABS, Hill Descent and Traction Light Warning lights to stay on. 4. replace 'pinholed' rear passenger airbag. 5. replace leaking aircon condenser radiator. 6.check for noisy clutch. Finally, replace cracked passenger headlamp and passenger door mirror. I've had the turbo wastegate freed off successfully. May need new shuttle valve and airflow sensor, but that is it. Despite the cursing and swearing, we still love it. It is comfortable, versatile and the kids love it. Econmomy is good for a 2.5 turbo diesel intercooler TD5. Long runs give us 34.4 average to the gallon. Fully loaded and towing the caravan, 25.2 mpg. Body wise, it's wearing well and I'm glad we have ACE and aircon, having borrowed one that didn't. Disc 3 and 4 seem to have more problems. Dealerships still seem to see you as the 'cash cow'. My advice, get a good independent Land Rover specialist. Excalibur 4x4 at Needham market Lion Barn Industrial estate here in Suffolk are the best I've come across.I've not seen a problem that Mark or Steve can't deal with.

Discovery 4 won't start

I have a Discovery 4, 15, 000 miles. On Friday it wouldn't start. It didn't even say 'no smart key found' I got a life home and phoned Landrover assistance. When I returned to the car an hour later it started!! I met a friend today who has also had the same problem. (3 times) Has anyone else experienced this?

Mines a free lander 2

Ive first brought a free lander 08 reg. The first trouble was no water in it when going down the motorway. 2nd trouble was the power steering went. 3rd trouble auternater broke. 4th trouble more Oil in than when it was first brought. So got rid of the 08 freelander in exchange for a new one. Send it in for the first service and then the clutch was broken. Tyres coverd in red dust. Engine not ticking over properly. Damaged to drivers side window. I belive this car was taken off roading. I wished i had never seen a landrover before !!! Im trying to get rid of my car now because ive had nearly 2 years of HELL !!!

DISCOVERY 3

discovery 3 and 4 are full of faults. never buy one... trading standards need look into these constant errors by landrover! Lets all get together and bombard watchdog with our info!!

PEOPLE IN THE KNOW !

I LIVE IN PERTH AND WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO PEOPLE OUT THERE , THERE ARE SO CALL MECHANICS SO CALLED LAND ROVER SPECIALISTS HERE THAT SAY THEY KNOW BUT DONT, ALL TALK A LOT OF S**T AND DONT KNOW F**K ALL ! BUY TOYOTA

Discovery 3 - worst4x4xfar

The only thing I haven't replaced on my 2008 Disco TDSE is its owner. NEVER AGAIN!

1992 discovery

I purchased mine from a family friend about 3 years ago. Since purchasing this mistake i have replaced the master cylinder, fuel pump, water pump, rebuilt the trnsfer case and gearbox, replaced the rear shocks, two sets of front tyres and wheel alignments. Now this truck is not used offroad, strictly onroad, and now am having overheating issues. (3.5 litre v8) complete waste of money, english piece of crap, they don't know how to build a car. What i think it comes down to is that in england you drive for 10 minutes and then you are down to a 40kmph off road status. Here in australia you drive for 3 hours at 100kmph and then go offroad, these trucks cannot handle the stress of these speeds.

You should have read the reviews

These are always the lowest rated vehicles every year. I can't figure out why you people buy them. The only vehicle that ever gets a lower rating is Jaguar, which is built in the same factory. Not sure what would make anyone want to buy one. Overpriced. Poor quality. Ugly as hell.

RANGE ROVER SPORTS

We bought two new Range Rover Sports and in 18 months have had 28 issues! Never buy beware. We are trying to get some compensation from Land Rover or we will take to court. So far they have offered £500.00, not bad bearing in mind the two cars cost neraly £100,000. They are jokers!

Same the world over!!

LR3 V8 HSE. Spent tens of thousands and still counting. Loss in value means I can't afford to sell it. I have even bought a new car (Nissan - no problems at all after one year...) to use while the sack of spanners is in the garage (use it about 6 months of the year, while in the garage for the other 6 - seriously!) Land Rover Dubai do not even entertain working on any of their own cars OVER 5 YEARS OLD!! This shows you how much they stand behind their own brand!! All of the private garages give you a sorry look at being so stupid for buying one, then proceed to fleece you anyway. In with one problem last week, then out with 5 more. Just broke down after leaving the garage (same when leaving main dealer). Intermittent total loss of power / fuel (who knows?? No fault code to tell!!) You name it, it's failed. From suspension to roof and back down again. My mate didn't listen to me, bought a Range Rover, then had tens of problems until he had to have a new engine. Wife made him sell it as she didn't feel safe driving such an unreliable POS with kids. Other mate had a newer one, and enjoyed meeting with the guys at the dealer workshop, who knew him by name!! My even poorer mate had an older spec one and also bought another car to use for whenever his Range broke down. Please do yourself a huge favour, and boycott any new or used Land Rover or Range Rover, unless you are a serious masochist, or have a serious desire to get rid of some cash!! This will be the best piece of advice you ever get if you are buying a car. If I can save even one poor soul, this web-rant will be worth it - Thanks for listening!!

Disco 4

So glad I came accross your website as I was just about to buy a new Disco 4 and after doing reasearch and asking arround I will not tough a Land Rover

Discovery 1 1998

My 1998 Discovery smokes in the mornings after de exeleration blue smoke smell like raw diesel can anyone help please

Looking to buy 1997 TDI

Hello, I am looking to buy 1997 Landrover Disco TDI, anyone with any problems with these, or are these made in the reliable years??? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Location Australia.

Disco 4 is not a Land rover but a range rover with

We have had our Disco3 for 3 years and after a couple of long trips into the african bush and wilderness concluded that the vehicle is not really up to much more than weekend and very occasional off road off road. We functionally tested off road it amazing, but the amazing turns very scary when the electronics start misbehaving in tough situation. Our list of problems is VERY long and all linked to far to many electronics for a real off road 4x4. A quick selection Faulty gearbox sensors - gear changes at very times intermittently Faulty air suspension sensor(s) - car raised an lower itself on it own. Electonic park brake - loads of problems with it Rear door actuator - = can get into boot not funny when trying to set up camp in the bush !

Dont believe the critics

I was faced with a decision 4 years ago - new disco or Landcruiser lC4. Reliability was iffy by word of mouth, friends said that warranty issues were ignored so I went with the Cruiser. So coming round to that time again for a new a new car - and high (or rather top) on the list is the new Disco 4. Surely reliability would be sorted, every article you read in the UK press punts a UK car.... So this site was a godsend - reliability and warranty is obviously still an issue and based on this, just ordered a new Landcruiser LC 5. Don't believe all the press and hype you read about the LC5 and not for the UK market. With the new suspension et al, it is absolutely a real alternative and seems many "experts" or critics are plugging the disco but completely ignoring the downside in a balanced review. I dont stress with the family being stranded,late at night coming back into London and I got about 70% residual on what I paid for my 4 year old LC4 4 years later... In africa they always say "if you go to the bush, you can take a landrover, if you want to come back, better take a landcruiser"...

Range Rover Vogue

I bought a 2 year old Range Rover Vogue TDV8 as a family barge 2 months ago. Have always loved the Range Rover but I lacked the confidence to spend the amount of money required. My partner fell in love with one and having spent 50ishK I wish I had listened to my instinct. So far the battery has been dead on 2 seperate occassions (LR assistance were very helpful) - Spent 5 days with LR garage for them to claim there is no fault (I must have bought the worlds first self healing car!!!). The "like for like" courtesy car under the warranty??? A Fiat Punto. The car is now back with the gargae (2 weeks later) because it will not recognise the SmartKey. This left my partner and 2 year old son stuck in the middle of an industrial estate for over an hour. The "like for like" courtesy car under the warranty? A Chevrolet Volt (I have now complained to LR Customer Care and await their response). According to LandRover website they endevour to repair recovered cars within 4 hours of them being recovered to the dealership. Well I spent 4 hours calling the dealership every 30 mins, being told everyone in servicing is busy, before I was told that they would get round to it tomorrow and that the LR experience I have had is not good enough. When asked what they would do about my experience being "not good enough", they said they can only appologise. Well apologies are not enough and I am consdiering requesting a refund. I wonder how long before that results in legal action as LR do not seem keen on dealing with disgruntled customers.

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